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  <a href="https://qwen.ai/"><img src="qwen-logo.png" width="96" height="95" alt="Qwen"></a>
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  </p>
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  <p align="center">
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  <img src="https://img.shields.io/badge/Qwen-Qwen3.8-615CED?style=for-the-badge&logo=qwen&logoColor=white" alt="Qwen Qwen3.8">
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  <img src="https://img.shields.io/badge/Apple_Silicon-MLX-000000?style=for-the-badge&logo=apple&logoColor=white" alt="Apple silicon MLX">
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  <img src="https://img.shields.io/badge/Vontra-oQ4-6E56CF?style=for-the-badge&logo=huggingface&logoColor=white" alt="Vontra oQ4">
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  </p>
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  <h1 align="center">Qwen3.8 Flash Next — MLX oQ4 with native MTP</h1>
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  <p align="center">
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  A mixed-precision MLX conversion of <a href="https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next">Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next</a>, quantised directly from the official BF16 checkpoint with its native MTP draft block preserved.
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  <p align="center">
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  <a href="https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next">Original model</a> ·
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  <a href="https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.8-flash-next">Qwen overview</a> ·
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  <a href="LICENSE">Qwen Community License 1.0</a>
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  </p>
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  ## About this conversion
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  This repository contains an oQ4 mixed-precision MLX conversion produced directly from Qwen's BF16 weights. Layer sensitivity was measured with a validated local proxy. Every final tensor, including the native MTP head, was rebuilt from the official BF16 checkpoint. Group size 32 supports the model's 160-wide hashed n-gram embedding tables.
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  | Repository | `Vontra/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MLX-oQ4-MTP` |
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  | Configured context | 262,144 tokens |
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  | Architecture | `qwen4_exp` vision-language sparse MoE |
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  The upstream tokenizer, chat template, vision processor, generation configuration, and native MTP configuration are preserved.
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  > [!IMPORTANT]
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  > This checkpoint requires an oMLX or MLX-VLM runtime with explicit `qwen4_exp` native-MTP support. Stock runtimes that do not construct the Qwen4Exp MTP module may reject the 76 MTP tensors during strict weight loading.
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  > [!CAUTION]
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  > Do not attach a Qwen3.8 27B drafter to this model. Flash Next has different hidden dimensions and ships its own matching MTP block here.
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  ## Download and use
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  ```bash
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  hf download Vontra/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MLX-oQ4-MTP \
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  --local-dir Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MLX-oQ4-MTP
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  ```
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  Add the downloaded directory to an MTP-capable oMLX installation, select the model, and enable native MTP in its model settings.
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  ## Apple M3 Studio performance
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  Validated with native MTP enabled in oMLX on an Apple M3 Studio:
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  | Test | Output tokens | Speed |
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  | Raw completion, first measured run | 32 | 29.4 tokens/s |
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  | Exact-instruction chat | 27 | 17.4 tokens/s |
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  | Casual chat | 71 | 39.7 tokens/s |
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  The two deterministic raw-completion runs produced identical output. The exact-instruction test returned `hello`, and the longer chat completed coherently without repetition or cache-reconciliation errors. Native MTP remained active throughout, with 58.3 to 89.5% draft acceptance across these tests.
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  Results vary with prompt length, cache state, sampling settings, runtime version, and memory pressure.
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  ## Architecture
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  Qwen3.8 Flash Next combines Gated DeltaNet, Qwen Sparse Attention, sparse mixture-of-experts layers, widened gated residual streams, hashed bigram and trigram embeddings, and a native next-token prediction block for speculative decoding.
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  | Architecture detail | Upstream value |
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  | --- | ---: |
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  | Language-model parameters | 125B total / 6B active |
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  | Native configured context | 262,144 tokens |
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  | Native MTP draft blocks | 1 |
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  For upstream evaluations, intended use, limitations, safety guidance, and the complete architecture discussion, see the [original model card](https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next).
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  ## Conversion and validation
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  - The converter read the official BF16 checkpoint directly.
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  - Sensitivity-guided allocation used a 4-bit base and 232 protected or overridden modules.
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  - Structural validation checked all 3,747 indexed tensors and all 22 shards.
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  - MTP validation confirmed one configured draft layer and 76 converted MTP tensor entries.
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  - Live generation validation covered deterministic completion, exact-instruction chat, coherent chat, MTP telemetry, and cache rollback.
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  This is a community conversion, not an official Qwen release.
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  ## License and attribution
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  The upstream model is released under the **Qwen Community License 1.0**. The required licence text is included in this repository.
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  Model design, training, evaluations, and upstream documentation belong to Qwen and the original contributors. The MLX conversion and packaging are provided by [Vontra](https://huggingface.co/Vontra).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  <p align="center">
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  <a href="https://qwen.ai/"><img src="qwen-logo.png" width="96" height="95" alt="Qwen"></a>
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  </p>
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  <p align="center">
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  <img src="https://img.shields.io/badge/Qwen-Qwen3.8-615CED?style=for-the-badge&logo=qwen&logoColor=white" alt="Qwen Qwen3.8">
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  <img src="https://img.shields.io/badge/Apple_Silicon-MLX-000000?style=for-the-badge&logo=apple&logoColor=white" alt="Apple silicon MLX">
 
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  <img src="https://img.shields.io/badge/Vontra-oQ4-6E56CF?style=for-the-badge&logo=huggingface&logoColor=white" alt="Vontra oQ4">
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  </p>
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  <h1 align="center">Qwen3.8 Flash Next — MLX oQ4 with native MTP</h1>
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  <p align="center">
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  A mixed-precision MLX conversion of <a href="https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next">Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next</a>, quantised directly from the official BF16 checkpoint with its native MTP draft block preserved.
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  </p>
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  <p align="center">
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  <a href="https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next">Original model</a> ·
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  <a href="https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.8-flash-next">Qwen overview</a> ·
 
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  <a href="LICENSE">Qwen Community License 1.0</a>
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  </p>
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  ## About this conversion
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  This repository contains an oQ4 mixed-precision MLX conversion produced directly from Qwen's BF16 weights. Layer sensitivity was measured with a validated local proxy. Every final tensor, including the native MTP head, was rebuilt from the official BF16 checkpoint. Group size 32 supports the model's 160-wide hashed n-gram embedding tables.
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  | Item | Value |
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  | Repository | `Vontra/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MLX-oQ4-MTP` |
 
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  | Configured context | 262,144 tokens |
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  | Architecture | `qwen4_exp` vision-language sparse MoE |
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  The upstream tokenizer, chat template, vision processor, generation configuration, and native MTP configuration are preserved.
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  > [!IMPORTANT]
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  > This checkpoint requires an oMLX or MLX-VLM runtime with explicit `qwen4_exp` native-MTP support. Stock runtimes that do not construct the Qwen4Exp MTP module may reject the 76 MTP tensors during strict weight loading.
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  > [!CAUTION]
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  > Do not attach a Qwen3.8 27B drafter to this model. Flash Next has different hidden dimensions and ships its own matching MTP block here.
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  ## Download and use
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  ```bash
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  hf download Vontra/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MLX-oQ4-MTP \
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  ```
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  Add the downloaded directory to an MTP-capable oMLX installation, select the model, and enable native MTP in its model settings.
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  ## Apple M3 Studio performance
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  | Test | Output tokens | Speed |
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  | --- | ---: | ---: |
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  | Raw completion, first measured run | 32 | 29.4 tokens/s |
 
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  | Exact-instruction chat | 27 | 17.4 tokens/s |
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  The two deterministic raw-completion runs produced identical output. The exact-instruction test returned `hello`, and the longer chat completed coherently without repetition or cache-reconciliation errors. Native MTP remained active throughout, with 58.3 to 89.5% draft acceptance across these tests.
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  Results vary with prompt length, cache state, sampling settings, runtime version, and memory pressure.
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  ## Architecture
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  Qwen3.8 Flash Next combines Gated DeltaNet, Qwen Sparse Attention, sparse mixture-of-experts layers, widened gated residual streams, hashed bigram and trigram embeddings, and a native next-token prediction block for speculative decoding.
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  | Architecture detail | Upstream value |
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  | --- | ---: |
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  | Language-model parameters | 125B total / 6B active |
 
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  | Native configured context | 262,144 tokens |
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  | Native MTP draft blocks | 1 |
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  For upstream evaluations, intended use, limitations, safety guidance, and the complete architecture discussion, see the [original model card](https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next).
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  ## Conversion and validation
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  - The converter read the official BF16 checkpoint directly.
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  - Sensitivity-guided allocation used a 4-bit base and 232 protected or overridden modules.
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  - Structural validation checked all 3,747 indexed tensors and all 22 shards.
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  - MTP validation confirmed one configured draft layer and 76 converted MTP tensor entries.
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  - Live generation validation covered deterministic completion, exact-instruction chat, coherent chat, MTP telemetry, and cache rollback.
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  This is a community conversion, not an official Qwen release.
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  ## License and attribution
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  The upstream model is released under the **Qwen Community License 1.0**. The required licence text is included in this repository.
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  Model design, training, evaluations, and upstream documentation belong to Qwen and the original contributors. The MLX conversion and packaging are provided by [Vontra](https://huggingface.co/Vontra).
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+ <!-- vontra-chooser-start -->
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+ ## Choose for your Mac
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+ [64GB Macs](https://huggingface.co/collections/Vontra/mlx-models-for-64gb-macs-6a9fefda17932216ec9ab457) · [128GB Macs](https://huggingface.co/collections/Vontra/mlx-models-for-128gb-macs-6a9ff0abd31bc9abbe7922d7) · [256GB Macs](https://huggingface.co/collections/Vontra/mlx-models-for-256gb-macs-6a9ff0ef9fed7c5bdca15e9b)
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+ No measured memory tier is assigned here. The collections use published M3 Studio peaks with at least 25% nominal headroom; fit on other Macs is an estimate, and full context is not guaranteed. Start with short context and one request.
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+ ### Runtime and evidence
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+ The exact tested oMLX application version is not recorded here; a library version is not an app version. The original performance tables retain their benchmark conditions and speed figures; this documentation update adds no new test results.
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+ An unresolved [long-generation repetition report](https://huggingface.co/Vontra/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MLX-oQ4/discussions/2) involves oQ4-MTP; this update does not establish a fix.
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+ ### Quick start and demo prompt
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+ ```bash
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+ hf download Vontra/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MLX-oQ4-MTP --local-dir ./models/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MLX-oQ4-MTP
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+ ```
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+ Add the downloaded folder to oMLX model directories, refresh the list, and follow this card's architecture and MTP compatibility requirements before loading.
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+ Try this in a new chat with a 128-token output limit:
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+ ```text
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+ Explain why the sky looks blue in three short sentences.
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+ ```
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+ This is a demo prompt to try, not a recorded successful run; a captured demonstration for this documentation update is not yet available.
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+ [Follow Vontra for new Apple Silicon releases and fixes.](https://huggingface.co/Vontra)
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+ <!-- vontra-chooser-end -->